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Post by Frank Zieglar on Jul 7, 2006 1:49:15 GMT -5
These are better now that you started taking my advice. I knew that if you listened to me, you could get somewhere. In few years you might be able to work at theme park or something... LOL.
my only real complaint in this group is the longer hair (esp. ponytails) is looking very stripey. But since I don't airbrush - I can only mock (uh, I mean point it out).
You got me - former Kamans. Am I that obvious? I try drawing different - really I do. The 'Kamans' style is so close to how I was drawing already - that it's almost my natural style anyways. Man I need to change it up.
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Post by chrisneuenschwander on Jul 10, 2006 17:50:06 GMT -5
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Post by Frank Zieglar on Jul 10, 2006 18:33:48 GMT -5
I think I remember from your intro post or something that you worked one summer with Kaman's. It still has some influence in your work I think, but you have done a great job of pulling away from it and devolping your own. Back to the hair - like I said I don't airbrush but... The stripes are good for showing the direction that the hair is going and flowing, but do nothing to show the volume of the hair. This can happen with the Artstix as well I believe. I would recommend less stripes and How do you show volume on non-hair parts? Lights and shadows I think. I would try coloring the hair mostly in one color - with hi-lights and darker shadowy areas. Followed by some limited stripeys to show direction and flow. I hope this makes sense and helps some - but like I said I don't airbrush. Also, I really enjoyed the bald guy and the ear lobe earing guy.
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Post by horate on Jul 10, 2006 18:55:57 GMT -5
it so fresh and simple your work Chris,.....the examples without colors are very nice,..., how you connect the diferents colors ?? can i use a ordinary airbrush , i need something special to connect to the colors ?? i like the results...
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Post by jong on Jul 11, 2006 11:56:25 GMT -5
yeah, nice park style, chris!! how long do these take you? you seem to be getting better at live stuff by the day! most of your likenesses look really good!!... sometimes live caricaturist make really nice drawings without much likeness, but you seem to be combining the two! hats off to you!! by the way, the cow on that one guy's caricature is hilarious!
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Post by chrisneuenschwander on Jul 11, 2006 20:51:40 GMT -5
Frank, the hair is just something Im going to have to work with and experiment, thanks for the suggestions, ill see how I can translate that into airbrush. horate,im not sure about what youre asking, do you mean connect the colors to the airbrush? its just bottle to gun. what you need its a set of paints, (in airbrush bottles of coarse) an airbrush, we use an Iwata eclipse, and an air compressor. other than that you dont need anything else, as far as airbrishing goes. hopefully that answers your questions. Jong thanks, it takes about 3-5 minutes for the actual black and white drawing, and then a few more minutes for the colors, one face in color takes around 10 minutes, i rarely go over, if ever...and about the cow, he actually had a cow, and he said it was a mean cow, so, I just let my imagination go, thanks for the comments! Ive been off the past couple days, more drawings soon!
thanks for all the comments guys
-Chris
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Post by Mauri on Jul 12, 2006 19:31:37 GMT -5
Chris, I don't know Jermey. Does he have a website? Would love to see some of his work. This last batch is looking good!
Mauri
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Post by devro on Jul 13, 2006 17:46:19 GMT -5
these are fantastic! So many times I have my caricature done at a park by someone who isn't really that good and it's nice to see someone who is good at it. I think the hair looks fine how it is, but could be better. Some questions about live work: What park do you work at? What brand of pen/cil do you use for the initial sketch? How much do you charge?
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Post by toonMom on Jul 19, 2006 6:09:27 GMT -5
These are great Chris. I very much enjoyed viewing them. I love the crazy couple on the first page, the ones making the funny faces. I think that's the first time I've seen a caricature where the people aren't all cool and serious looking.
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Post by chrisneuenschwander on Jul 24, 2006 0:53:34 GMT -5
thanks guys! Mauri, jeremy has a website, jertworks.com, or maybe its jertwork.com, but I think its the first one. one of the two! also check out his blog, www.mrjert.blogspot.comDevro, I work at six flags over Ga, we use a lead holder which uses 4b and 6b 6mm lead. usually 4b lead though. in the park we charge 19 for a color face. thanks for the kind words toonmom! I know I havent been around lately, been lazy abou t getting these online, some select drawings fomr the past couple days at the park. its been busy, so little time for pictures. -Chris
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Post by jong on Jul 24, 2006 5:40:46 GMT -5
hey chris, really cool stuff as always. no 2 is stinking awesome...hehe... it cracks me up! and the coloring is great on it too. the last one is really cute. i also like the fifth to last but it looks more like a beautiful teenage girl, rather than a small kid, imho. i'm not the one to be speaking, because haven't really done live work ( and i probably wouldn't be good at it considering how slow i am), but i think that some of these look like you weren't totally consistent with the angle of the face. for example, the dude in the 6th pic.. his nose looks like it's pretty close to profile, while the rest of his face is facing the viewer more, like a normal 3/4 view. maybe i'm wrong? i know that's probably just because it's done so fast, but it's something to keep in mind i think. on quite a few you have one eye bigger than the other.. i think that works in use of distorted perspective and/or with some expressions, but on some of them it seems to take the quality of the piece down. like on the 4th to last and maybe the girl in the 9th pic would have been better with the eyes more the same size. that's my two cents for whatever it's worth. all in all, you're one skilled live caricaturist! keep it up. oh yeah, how does your caricature business at six flags work exactly? are there other caricaturists sitting beside you doing other people while you're busy? i've never been to a theme park with caricaturists so i don't know how it works. and how much of the $19 do you actually keep?
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Post by chrisneuenschwander on Jul 24, 2006 22:43:20 GMT -5
Thanks jong for taking the time to comment. about the eyes, sometimes its intentional, and other times its because of a pencil stoke that was a little off from what I intended. and noses are my weak point (IMO) at the moment, so thats my next hurdle.
as far as the "business aspect goes" I work with Fasen Arts, a contracted lessee type of company that caters to theme parks (and hotels) I work with I think 8 or 9 other artists, and each stand has 3 desks. 2 stands in the park. I get to keep 30% of everything I sell. $19 is the price of a color face and 2 people in black and white, one in b+w is 14, 2 in color is 31, more for more people blah blah., its decent money, but I do it more for the experiance.
-Chris
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Post by devro on Jul 25, 2006 8:57:37 GMT -5
About how many ppl do you do a day?
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(Ps)Sorry about all the questions. Live caricatures are something I think I will try someday in the future and they really intrest me.
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Post by chrisneuenschwander on Jul 26, 2006 20:42:52 GMT -5
hmmm, well it really depends on teh day, I could come in and do 50-60, or I could come in and do 2. somewhere inbetween there depending on the day. at a five hour gig, ive done 3 of those so far and at each I did about 120-130 people those days, it also depends on color black and white, but blah, jsut to give you an idea.
as far as trying live caricatures in teh future, my advice is get in as soon as you can the sooner the better, I started at 16 and worked summers in high school, and weekends during the year, lots and lots of practice! been doing it just about 3 years now and I love it! wouldnt want to do it for the rest of my life, but its the PERFECT job for students. Kamans hires at legal working age, 16 i think, and fasens (since its contracted work) can only hire at 18, legal adult. dont know about the other companies, richmond I think is much the same as well as fair work. hiring at 18,
ask all teh questions you want! dont promise to have the answers but I mighjt know someone who does!
-Chris
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Post by chrisneuenschwander on Jul 28, 2006 22:13:36 GMT -5
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