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Post by toonMom on Feb 22, 2004 19:06:36 GMT -5
I have had this program for a while now and I decided to try and use it to color a caricature. I am having all sorts of problems with it. Here is the list of problems I am having:
1) The program is very sluggish. I have a new Dell computer with lots of Ram and high speed processor, so that shouldn't be the problem here. I am working at 300 dpi and I dropped my undo's down to 8 hoping that would help but it did nothing.
2) I closed out of the program and when I opened it up to work on my picture some more, the color came out darker. The color showing up does not match the selected color. I have no idea why this is happening, but it hinders me from working.
3) I am using the scan of my initial sketch as my background layer. I would like to lower the opacity of it, but I can't figure out how to do that.
Any help here would be great. I have attempted to use this program several times but always gave up on it. I would like to get used to how it works. Aside from the problems I am having, any other tips on using the program would be great. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Post by ScottG on Feb 22, 2004 21:30:58 GMT -5
Hey Toonmom, I have the trial version...are you talking about the full version...I hope to buy it real soon ...I think the more layers I used the slower it got...so the one of JadaChris I did, I only used three layers....
I will look into this and try and help out as much as I can because I really like Corel painter 8 Scott ;D
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Post by toonMom on Feb 23, 2004 6:43:05 GMT -5
I do have the full version (I'm an impulse buyer). I have 2 layers at this point in my painting. It is really slow if I try using the water color brush. I tried it and I had to wait like 15 seconds for the stroke to catch up, it was crazy. What brush type did you use for your jadachris painting? Just the Airbrush? I am using colored pencils, that's what Dion said he uses in the video, so I tried it.
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Post by dedder on Feb 24, 2004 13:37:24 GMT -5
What if you duplicated the background layer (initial sketch) and with one of the overlay -modes you can make it lighter/darker. Reading about point 2, I'dd say there is somewhere a conflict lower the opacity of the background? Add a layer,fill it white or whatever and decreasee opactity. In fact I never work with layers.
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Post by toonMom on Feb 24, 2004 13:52:01 GMT -5
Here is my setup: Background is my scan and I have a layer on top of that with my painting on it.
I am using a very light Flesh color, but when I went back into the program and started painting again, the color came out a really dark reddish-brown color. I am using colored pencils and the layer is set to gel.
I have done a lot of work in Photoshop so I know how that program works, but I have never had anything like this happen. I just don't understand how Painter works.
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Post by sweetleaf on Feb 25, 2004 11:17:38 GMT -5
ooh, I hope any of this helps...I use painter 5.5 because the full version came out free on the cover of a magazine once... Anyway..I find coloured pencils do make the colours darker than the one you try to use in painter 5.5, I find sometimes a little improvisation is called for and so I do thngs like use an airbrush with a very small stroke area, to make it seem like a pencil stroke, increasing the opacity helps as well. This colour thing happens with a few tools I have found, not just coloured pencils.. Sorry I cant really help with your other questions, I would guess that you might get more what you're afer if you lighten your background in some package and re-import it to your background layer or something.. Just a suggestion as I dont really ever use layers, though I do 'float' various things occassionally . Anyway, I hope you find any of it helpful, sorry if not, and good luck with your explorations.
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Post by dedder on Apr 8, 2004 5:55:21 GMT -5
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Post by toonMom on Apr 10, 2004 6:21:16 GMT -5
Thanks Hans, I will have to check those out.
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Post by dedder on May 4, 2004 3:15:36 GMT -5
A nice try could be,the watercolor-"broad chisel tip" at standard settings to begin with.Gives much nicer colours than the pencils. If you don't like the edges,you can firstly paint with the papercolour as an "underpaint"
And not to forget my ever favour: the airbrush,at non airbrush settings: opaque 80%,the tablet pressure does the rest! and for quick adjusting size: "Alt Gr + drag" get's penwidth at your pentip.
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Post by sweetleaf on Aug 28, 2004 8:14:37 GMT -5
Hi Toonmom and peeps, one thing I just thought of is that your problem might be your graphics card or secondarily your processor, especially because you mention the colours being different when you open the image agin.
I have painter 8 (8.1 with update) and it runs fine on the computer I have, but then I always build my own computers. One aspect I have found when working with Painter 8 is that at some point or other (usually when performing a save) is that the brush becomes 'jittery' and sluggish, I solve it by just laying a stroke down, then it restores normal movement to the brush tip. You can also get slow down if you copy chunks of picture to memory (as shapes etc), this can be solved by saving again and going from the save because the memory empties at this point when you close your image, asking if you want to convert the scrap piece and all that..
I know its a pain, but 512meg or even 1 gigabyte of memory can fill up awfully fast with the colour mode having to be set so high in the first place to just run CorelPainter having more than 1 gigabyte of memory slows the computer down aswell, as most processors can only read one or maybe 2 banks of memory at a time and then it depends if its double sided or single.. theres various discussions I have found in magazines about the whole memory thing, dont know where to point you online, sorry.
My computer runs on an AMD Athlon 1700+ and 512meg of PC2700 memory (333Mhz) with 21" monitor set at 1600x1200 resoloution and has an 80 gigabyte hard disk. And mostly it seems fine for most things I do, including 3D computer graphics, (though the rendering can still take an age). The latest piece I am working on has 4 layers at present with a resoloution of 3000x3000 pixels at 400 dpi and it all seems to be running fine..
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Post by dedder on Aug 28, 2004 15:12:30 GMT -5
Wow, Sweetleaf, wish I had a machine like that! On the 3D,what do you make?What programs do you use? I know these can be very memoryhungry, to say the least.
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Post by sweetleaf on Aug 29, 2004 8:24:39 GMT -5
um, well the machine isnt all that impressive really. I used a few componants from an older computer, like the processor, and the monitor was re-conditioned, so it only cost me £75 (US $110 or so), thats including postage, biggest problem was that it weighs half my weight, so I had to ask the next door neighbour to help me move it and all when it was delivered. The rest I bought because I had an award due to my physical incapacity. Its just that when I build a computer I like it to last for at least 2 years before it being out of date, longer if I can get away with it, the other computer I had was 5 years old by the time it was replaced with this one, and I had the tablet with that one, so its a real investment which has paid for itself over and again I think.
With 3D, I use old programs, Truespace 4.3, Ray dream 3D and a few others, I did some 3D scenes for an online fanatsy game and then the main co-ordinator decided to change their whole system, so it all fell flat and I ended up with a few images with no-one who wanted them. *sigh*
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