Progession

[Frank Zieglar]

I was reading old topics like this one - virtualart.proboards20.com/index.cgi?board=carcTalk&action=display&thread=1075919980

And anyway, a picture is worth a thousand words...

Here are a couple of old cartoonicatures - the way I used to do them before getting into a park.

On the left is my dad - (1997) drawn with a rollerball pen (IIRC) and color scribbled in with color pencil. On the right is my old pastor - (2001) drawn with a Sharpie and colored with marker.

Pretty much the way I've always drawn. My high school art teacher did VERY LITTLE for me as I drew this way before and after the two years of art.

You'll have to take my word on the likeness - little exageration, but definate cartoon.



The second set...

On the left is the first caricature I did in my training class for Kamans. my poor daughter, (2003) drawn with Design. On the right is my dad again shortly after finishing my training - (2003) drawn with Design and colored with Artstix.

You'll notice I was working hard on likeness (again my on my word) - no exageration and no toon. No line quality either - remember this was a Design (in all honesty I never got too good a getting line quality with it).



Here is a recent drawing of my daughter - (2005) drawn with Copic and colored with Artstix, with...
1) likeness
2) exageration - not too much for little girls
3) cartoony - a caricature doesn't have to look cartoony, but that has always been my style
4) line quality



[glow=red,2,300]... and I still got a long ways to go.
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><> Frank Zieglar <><
-- Associate yourself with men of quality if you esteem your reputation, for 'tis better to be alone than in bad company. -- George Washington

[JC]

First, the link to the old thread was great for me. i am very happy to read all of that....i am super excited about all of this and hope to find my own style....believe it or not, but, in the first part of that old thread speaks for me right now.....very relieving to know i am not the only one...or should i say, i am happy to be in that position because i may be heading down the right track...

Second, i love seeing your progression Frank...that gives inspiration for guys like me....it really proves to me that improvement really comes with drawing and drawing and drawing...cause really some of the caricatures on this site can be intimidating, but knowing things like this only gets me fired up...maybe i can really be good or maybe not, but i will never know until i try...
i have already improved just in this short time...who knows what is next......

wow, that was a lot.....i am out..

[pagmatic]

I seem to like my Cartoony style. It looks better to me than something in a more "tradiitional" style.

-Mike

[dmcaricature]

Frank:
This is a great look at your progression. Shows that line variance can be a great tool in making a strong statement. you have JC all fired up...hope he doesn't get up to the plate with thick markers instead of a bat!

[Frank Zieglar]

Just like baseball or anything in life...

Some people have a natural ability towards something (for me it's cartooning); but if you never study, practice, and learn then your natural ability won't go very far.

That's way I never got any better - I didn't study, or practice. Just kept drawing the same way for years and years. I liked the way that I drew - but never improved.

Another person without any natural skill at something - but does study , practice, and learn will go farther than the first person, IMO.


><> Frank Zieglar <><
-- We are born naked, wet and hungry. Then things get worse.

[itsadam]

Nice progression Frank.


Here is mine. My first ever few caricatures around august 2004:



First one is of Mike N from this board. Second is Tony Blair. Third is Hans from this board. As you can see they weren't too good in the likeness nor the exageration department.

These are the ones from midway between starting and now something like october to the beginning of december 2004:



First is of Mike N again. Second of Renee Zellweger. Third is Angelina Jolie and the fourth is Hans again. I think I progressed nicely in the few months between the two sets of drawings.

The last set is of the newest ones I have done since taking a break from november/december 2004 to now:



First of Nelson. Second of DMC. Third of Karena. I'm just getting backinto capturing the likeness now as well as trying to push the exageration on my work.

So thats my progression from August 2004 to now January/February 2005

These are not all of my caricature attempts. Just the ones that I felt portrayed the average look of the time they were drawn. Some during the said times were better and some were worse.

[toonMom]

This is a great thread. Thanks for showing your work everyone!!

[JC]

Totally believe that practice and trying does make you better! When i first starting looking at websites I was looking for the "trick" to caricatures. everything i read the same thing kept coming up. That was "practice." Without a doubt, that is the only way to improve. It is like everything in life. You never know until you try. A baseball quote that is out there says,
"You can't steal second with your foot on first." Have to push yourself. If you don't try, then you will never know that you can do something. Being a part of this forum has pushed me and i look forward in a few months to be able to post my progression. I was like a kid in a candy store tonight when I arrive back home in Indiana at my parents. Broke out all of my drawing to show them. Heck, even turned on the computer and showed them everyones style on this forum. See, i am fired up. I really hope i don't go to bat with a marker. That would be hard to explain to the press. Okay, enough. have to start on Jennifer Gardner......

JC

[donpinsent]

i'd show you mine, but i'm in the habit of throwing out old drawings i don't like anymore.

[Frank Zieglar]

I like to throw out all those old ones too, Don - but my wife don't let me.

Where would we be if DaVinci throw out all his old little scribblings??

What about when they write your life story - people will want to see your early works.

Who will play you in the made for TV adaptation of said book?


><> Frank Zieglar <><
-- RUSSIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. You have to take care of them, but the government takes all the milk.

[donpinsent]

david faustino (bud bundy from married with children). many people have said i look like him, though i don't see it.
anyway, i don't want anyone seing those old drawings. that's why i throw them out. i feel no loss.

[etilander]

I thought the natural choice would be Gordon Pinsent...you do bare a small resemblance...

Erik.