Masonogy1
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I am god.... or not... ok I'm not... But I am good!!...At stuff.......
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Post by Masonogy1 on Sept 25, 2004 9:19:24 GMT -5
;D I had an Idea on planning my exaggerations on the liquify tool in photoshop!!! What are your thoughts on this? Is it a good way to practise exaggerations??? ;D
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Post by nialloloughlin on Sept 25, 2004 9:57:24 GMT -5
DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT, IS MY OPINION, IT'S THE WORST WAY TO LEARN POSSIBLE, GET YOURSELF A GOOD ANATOMY BOOK AND STUDY DRAWINGS BY ARTISTS YOU ADMIRE, AND LEARN THAT WAY, LIQUIFY TOOL WILL SET YOU BACK MAKE YOU LAZY AND YOU'LL LEARN NOTHING,,, I THINK YOU CAN TELL I DON'T LIKE THAT TOOL, JUST MY OPINION OTHERS MAY DISAGREE
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Post by Mikey on Sept 25, 2004 10:43:14 GMT -5
I agree with Niall, Photoshop, Paintshop Pro, Painter, etc., are great tools, but nothing can help you like practice with a pencil, watercolor, ink or what ever. I just finished a study of some of Ismael Roldan's works, I love his technique of clearly showing the planes of the face. I've got so far to go, and the only way to get there is practice, practice, practice. Check his site out! www.ismaelroldan.comHere it is, done with a HB Kimberly pencil Mikey
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Post by itsadam on Sept 25, 2004 12:35:00 GMT -5
Nice caricature Mikey. Is that by you?. And Mason. Rather than be hung up on exagerations first get used to getting a likeness. Because that will really help with exageration in the long run.
But I aswell do not incourage the use of computer software to help with things like exageration. Its best to learn using your eyes as the software so to speak.
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Post by Mikey on Sept 25, 2004 13:51:26 GMT -5
ITSADAM
Yes, I drew the charicature, but it is a practice copy of one by Ismael Roldan. That's why I didn't sign it.
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witty
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Post by witty on Oct 10, 2004 7:11:59 GMT -5
Hi Mikey Here is a tip for you and anybody else out there looking at the forms of the face. Go and get yourself a book called "The Pencil" by Paul Calle. It's an old book but it's how I started. I think everybody could benefit from it. Yes, Ismael is great also and you can learn alot from studying his work. To the guy who was going to use Photoshop.. Nope, it just doesn't cut it - as Niall says your taking a step backwards. Your better off looking at a photographs of celebrities and seeing how other artists on this chatboard interpret their features. That will get you learning... remember, practice makes perfect.. sorry, I just had to use this guy...
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Post by nelsonsantos on Jan 6, 2005 9:29:43 GMT -5
I agree with everybody here except a good book on caricature is the one from opdebeeck and he is the top for me: www.opdebeeck.com incredible his book inspired me in caricature and he´s a good referençe in this art! nELSON!
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Post by WATCHTHEBIRDY on Jan 6, 2005 15:42:06 GMT -5
More important that teaching yourself to draw is teaching yourself to SEE. You have to be able to see the caricature in the face before you can draw it.
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Post by nelsonsantos on Jan 6, 2005 15:57:14 GMT -5
Thjat´s another point the vision is very important in caricature, it´s like a 3D renderer glasses!!!
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Post by conde on Feb 1, 2005 16:07:01 GMT -5
More important that teaching yourself to draw is teaching yourself to SEE. You have to be able to see the caricature in the face before you can draw it. That´s my biggest problem... i can see the caricature of the face in my head, but i cant put what i see in the paper... not that i don´t have a good hand to draw... i do... it´s just that i cant...
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Post by nelsonsantos on Feb 2, 2005 8:13:04 GMT -5
You have to think as layers! Place the eyes in one layer, nose in another, mouth, hair, face. Remember Shrek: "onions have layers". ;D
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Post by dmcaricature on Feb 2, 2005 9:42:07 GMT -5
RE :LIQUIFY TOOL I agree with the thoughts on this thread about not using it for caricaturing. Sometimes you notice the effect on humourus cards of dogs etc where they distort eyes etc....that is about it! It is sometimes fun to play around with body proportions or whatever in your own personal photos for family and friends for the occasional laugh or two...but that is about it...sharpen those pencils! take a life drawing class.
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Post by vidal1951 on Feb 10, 2005 15:57:15 GMT -5
Masonogy1 I agree totally with Niall and Mikey. I have that problem with my students. They want to draw with the tools of the computer and they don't want to make it with pencil. The computer is a tool and you will be able to take advantage of its benefits and utility, provided you have experience of knowing how to draw and to apply the color appropriately, using the different ones technical artistic. You have to learn how to think of volume, because all that surrounds us, the human figure should even be built volumétricamente. The moment that you can see and to think of volúmen, your drawings will be clearer and defined, solving problems that before could not make it. I demand them to learn and dominate the geometric figures, with their respective application of the diffuse elements of light and shade.(where there is light, there is also shade and where there is shade, there is also light...) Application of light, dimness and shade, reflections, etc. A visual comunicador doesn't need to be a great designer, but yes to have proportion knowledge and techniques for a graphic representation that then will be transformed in graphic communication. The cartoon demands a domain of the drawing and a constant practice from knowing how to transform, to modify, to exaggerate but to not deform. Let us remember that our model is a human being and you/he/she deserves respect. A good cartoon should be capáz of enhancing its main characteristic (filling or angel) and that all admire with humor, without arriving to the jeer or offense... To transform to that pattern into a " character ". With that baggage of experience when using the computer with their tools and filters, then if it will be easier their manipulation. The best teachers are the works of the best caricaturists. There it is the answer to all the problems of the cartoon. To observe, to see and to imagine that you are you the one that is carrying out that work, that will give you security and trust. If he can make it... I also can. This is what I tell to my students... vidal1951 www.gratisweb.com/vidal1951/index.htm
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